How to Talk to Families About Slow Pedagogy: Addressing Misconceptions & Gaining Support
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[00:00:00] Hello and welcome to this week's podcast episode, which is how to talk to families about slow pedagogy so that they can get an understanding that it is not letting the children run wild and you have nothing planned and there's nothing intentional about your day at all. Slow pedagogy is the exact opposite to that.
Uh, It is very intentional, it is an educator really having to deeply observe the children in order to provide an environment or experiences, whether that be going out or providing things that can enhance what the children are naturally leaning towards and learning in their spontaneous play. So, um, I had a really great question last week about how to share this with parents, because [00:01:00] when the child led movement came through, it was somewhat poorly communicated, and it still is because so many educators can't even get on board with play, child led play.
The importance of it. Like, ooo. Like, why, I don't understand why we have to go out of our way to get educators on board with the idea that child led learning and child led play is the best way for children to learn. I, I, it blows my mind that this isn't just a given for every single educator in our profession.
And I feel like some of that comes partially from long day care, where there is a requirement for management. to constantly be producing and then educators feel the need to [00:02:00] justify their role. And we do this in family daycare to a degree as well. In fact, I see some educators really doing this and it's like hardcore.
So the fact that we have to still have this conversation says that we've got so far to go. But what I really want you to understand is that if you want to move towards slow pedagogy, then this is definitely a conversation that you need to have with the families and have them on board. Because if you constantly get pushback, it's going to make your job really difficult and it's going to really make you have to Uh, fight against things that you shouldn't have to fight against.
So that's what we're going to be talking about in today's episode. So sit back and let's get into it.
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Okay, so today I've got some notes that I'd thought about over the last couple of days and so I might be reading from [00:04:00] from these a little bit. So one of the biggest challenges that educators face when implementing a slow pedagogical approach to their program is helping parents and maybe even their service and coordinator understand what it actually is.
So And also what it isn't, because I think that's a really important step to create discernment around. So many families worry that a child led program, an unhurried approach, means that children are just left to their own devices without structure or purpose. And what I aim to get to in this episode is to is that we can dispel some of those myths and that you can move forward and confidently talk to families and your coordinator about what it is that you're actually doing so that you can articulate this in a way that's going to get them on board so that they can see the positive benefits of this approach as [00:05:00] well.
And in fact, not just the positive benefits of it, but the Absolute necessity for a slow pedagogical approach to be applied in every setting. I think that will have an enormous impact on early childhood education across the board. So first and foremost, I think it's really important that we understand the concerns around slow pedagogy.
So before we can communicate slow pedagogy effectively, we need to step into those shoes of those people who don't understand it and put it into a context that makes it easy for them to go, Oh, that makes sense. Um, and it's always when, when you're trying to educate someone who has either no idea around something or has some serious, um, there.
It's always really helpful to acknowledge their concerns [00:06:00] because that means that you're telling them you understand where they are, where they're coming from. And for many of us who are coming to this approach now, it either I believe comes completely naturally to you, or you've done quite a lot of reading and research and professional development.
If you've hung out with me for a while, you've done quite a bit of PD around the idea of stepping back and letting the children take the lead and the importance of that. So you're already down that pathway and you've already picked up information that has been beneficial to help you understand. and the absolute necessity for this type of work.
So when we can understand and share with people and say, Hey, yep, we know where you're at because I was there too. Uh, it can help people. It can break down those barriers. So a lot of the questions that you'll get from parents are, will my child be prepared for school? Why isn't my child being sent home with, [00:07:00] um, craft and activities that they've done every day?
Is my child just playing all day without learning anything? And how do I know that they're making progress if I don't see constant output? Now that is, they're very adult centric concepts. Children don't mass produce, like they don't go to work nine till five and have to manage and meet KPIs and all that sort of stuff.
It's just not, so a lot of adults don't apply that to their own children without realizing that that's actually not how early childhood works. So they stem from that traditional view of education as well, where learning looks like structured lessons. It looks like direct instruction and, and visible results.
Um, so our job as educators is to bridge that gap between what parents expect and the Deeper, more meaningful, um, learning that is actually occurring. So how to frame [00:08:00] slow pedagogy for parents. I think it's a really important thing that we keep top of mind. Um, and. Like, we have to understand that parents want the best for their children, uh, so our language and the way we approach these things should focus on how slow pedagogy benefits the child's development in a way that they can understand, and assimilate into their own thinking and their own practice at home as well.
So, instead of saying, we let children lead in their learning, the profession, like a, a really good, Great way to use professional language around that is to say that we create an environment where children develop independence, creativity and confidence by exploring at their own pace. So instead of saying I don't allow, um, I don't follow rigid schedules or set activities, what you can say is that I have a flexible routine that allows children to engage deeply in learning rather than rushing from one activity to the next.[00:09:00]
Instead of saying, I don't focus on formal school readiness, which I actually flag, fly that flag, quite I. You've probably gathered from now, uh, before now, if you've heard me or listened to me for a long time, instead of saying that I don't focus on school readiness, um, I would say that, you know, I prepare the children for school and life by strengthening their problem solving skills, resilience, and their ability to self regulate.
They've got to manage their own emotions before they go to school. They've got to learn how to communicate and negotiate with their peers before they go to school. Otherwise, they're There's a whole lot of world of pain to come for these little people because these are, you know, they've got to learn how to be able to put their shoes and socks on, open their own lunchbox, fill their own drink bottle up, put their gear back in their bag.
Like, these are the first things they need to learn before they go to school. And they get to school is when they learn to, you know, numbers and formalize. learning of [00:10:00] literacy and all that sort of stuff. There's so many building blocks that need to come into play before they get to that. So we can't just rush them through these processes.
So instead of saying, I believe children should experience struggle. Um, which I believe they should because they have to learn how to deal with disappointment. We're going to say that I help children develop perseverance and confidence by allowing them time to work through the challenges with my support.
Um, so practical strategies when talking to parents. So use simple and relatable analogies. This is really important because A, parents are time poor. B, they're at the end of their day, they're tired. And C, they're quite often distracted. So you need to cut through. through all of that really quickly and put it into a context that is easy for them to assimilate and understand.
So when they can relate to these and see how it will play out in their life, that's going to help them immensely to be able to understand. Stand [00:11:00] so you can talk about when they, they watch their child learn to walk. They didn't just swoop in and C carry them along and walk them along. They actually allowed them time and space to fall down, take a couple of steps or a step and fall down and get back up and do that process again and again.
They didn't come in and hold their hand and walk them for six kilometers the first time they stood up. There is a process. that we need to allow to unfold, and this is what slow pedagogy is. It is that unfolding and that time and that space for the children to really engage in what they're doing. So you could also talk about it like a cooking analogy.
You could say, yes, you could follow a recipe to the tea and get a perfect meal at the end of the day, but you're still not going to learn how to cook. Whereas if I give you just a whole set of ingredients and say I have at it. There's a million different things that you could come up with but what you're going to learn along the [00:12:00] way is you're going to learn how to mix the flavors, you're going to learn how to chop things differently, you're going to learn how to cook meat differently, you're going to have mistakes, you're going to burn things, but then you'll learn for the next time, this is exactly the same as slow pedagogy.
We allow the children to experiment. And to learn and to burn things and to come back and try it again. Not that we let them burn themselves, but you know what I'm saying? It's that whole process of allowing these things to unfold in, in time. It's the same as if you go to the gym. You don't ever rock up to the gym and go and lay down on the leg press and do a 350 kilo leg press.
It takes time to learn how to use the machine. It takes time to build your muscles up. You have to get that muscle memory in play. You have to be able to do these things slowly and surely and build up to this peak. big end point, well, let's be honest, it's never an end [00:13:00] point at the gym, but you build up to these things.
And this is exactly what the children are doing. When you learn to deadlift, you don't just go and do it. You have to learn how to engage your core, how to engage your glutes, how to engage your quads and, and where to bend your knee and where to hold the bar. Like this all takes practice. And this is exactly the same as slow pedagogy.
So. Give the parents a lens for observation too. So parents don't always see the learning in the way that we do, but we can help them recognize it. So instead of saying, Oh, your child played in the sandpit today. What you could say is that your child was experimenting with measurements by filling and pouring and emptying the buckets in the sandpit.
And this is building early, um, mathematical skills for your child because they're looking at what's bigger and smaller and what will fit in and all these. ideas and concepts happen for the children just in sitting in the [00:14:00] sandpit for an hour and playing. We don't talk about that with the child, but as adults, through our adult lens, we can see that that's what they're doing when they're partaking in these activities.
So instead of saying they spend an hour stacking blocks, well, that may be what they did. That doesn't mean that they So when we come from our educator lens, we can then say to the parent, actually, they were testing balance and stability, which supports problem solving and engineering thinking. Now, these are really critical thought processes that we all need to have, because when you go to climb on a ladder.
Um, You've got to learn that you've got to have that on a stable base. So these are really important life skills that your child was actually learning and experimenting with today. Instead of saying they spent time digging in the garden, which for me that is enough, but for a parent they're not going to get that they're developing those fine motor skills [00:15:00] and learning about nature and sustainability in a way that is a lifelong lesson.
They learn about worms. They also learn that you don't eat worms. Because they don't taste very good. And this whole process of gardening, that you could do an entire year curriculum in the garden. Like, there is just so much learning that happens out there. And the things that you notice, and the things, the changes in the environment, and all that sort of thing.
These are what we can talk about that the children are learning, when we have this space of slow pedagogy. So using documentation and making learning visible. So since slow pedagogy isn't produced worksheets or structured pictures, projects rather, use photos, videos and storytelling to showcase what happened.
So I have coming out very soon, not yet, but very soon, because I want to get the pictures all right so that they look lovely, um, [00:16:00] is a document on how to actually share. the daily happenings that happen in your space in a really short, concise way that will take time off your, um, list of things to do every day.
Because I know a lot of educators take a million photos and then post these and you get into these big explanations of what's happened to the day or you're having to do it through Storypark and your parents are getting really, um, demanding sometimes in some cases that I want this, I need this, la la la la la.
So having these daily or weekly learning stories that highlight the child's persistence, curiosity, and process, sorry, and progress, I do that in a group function every day. And it's really simple and I've got a document coming out to help you do that as well. I talked about it a couple of weeks ago and then I looked at the pictures once I printed it and went oh no they're not right and then I had to go away so I didn't have time to fix [00:17:00] it up but I'll, it's coming.
So before and after photos show how a child's play evolves over time and this is where we do the seasonal planning and we have that season plan. So some educators will plan for six weeks and then repeat the first six weeks. Because that gives you a really clear, concise, well this is what it looked like in the first week, and then we did X, Y, and Z in the weeks after, and then we came back and revisited the first week, and this is the difference.
It's really easy to see. Quotes from children, they capture the thinking process and problem solving skills as well. And what parent doesn't like to hear their child quoted back at them. And newsletters, you know, a seasonal newsletter that explain what you're doing, why you're doing it, how you're doing it, and if you need help and all that kind of stuff.
And then a recap of the last season in your next newsletter is a great way to do it too. Inviting parents to experience it themselves. You might think about hosting a stay and play session where parents can observe [00:18:00] their children in action. Um, I did these in the form of a seasonal gathering and we always shared what we did in our morning circle.
Now I know a lot of people are like, oh morning circle. Morning Circle is a connection time, and I swear by it, and I think it's a really great way to bring the group together and go, Okay, we've all landed, let's check in, how's everybody going? And then we would introduce songs about the season, and then every week I would introduce a new song, so by the end of the season we had half a dozen songs, and the parents were always amazed that their child knew the lyrics, and then I'd go, That's what they've been singing, that song!
I never understood the words they were saying, now I get it. And they always are fascinated about how quickly the children progress from one to the next and remember the actions and partake in this stuff because it's always surprising to them. And I think, uh, the idea of, singing in [00:19:00] early childhood education, it's become lost and I think we need to bring it back.
It's a really important piece of early childhood education. Just ask Lil Fie, she'll tell you. She's actually coming to the conference too so you're going to get to experience Lil Fie in all her gloriousness and I am so here for every minute of that. I think, I adore Fie, she's just such a beautiful person.
Anywho, uh, share videos of the children that are deeply engaged in play to illustrate how learning is actually happening. So share, show the parent what's, what's going on and narrate through that process for them. Excuse me, uh, I think that's a really great, undeniable Pardon me, undeniable learning factor right there.
And encourage parents to try slow pedagogy at home. So you can say like, next time your child is struggling with something, count to 10 before stepping in and just see what happens. Because this is what I do here and it's a really great tool. So [00:20:00] how to market, because I think we have to market slow pedagogy not only to families, but to other colleagues and to our coordination unit in some instances.
It's something that just comes naturally to me and my service, my, my coordinators. We fully embrace it. We have had these discussions, all of my coordinators have gone through the essential elements process, uh, course and done the masterclasses and things like that, so they're well up to date with all of this stuff and more, a billion times more.
But I think it's important that when we are having conversations on social media and answering questions and because there's lots of great questions asked in the social media groups, there's some cringy ones as well, but there's a lot of great ones asked as well. And it's how you can market it. And this is how we can start sharing this information.
So for families specifically, be really clear in your service philosophy. Like, [00:21:00] anything that you have out there that parents will read about what you do, make sure that you're talking about the idea of slow pedagogy. Do that in all of the posts that you do on social media. It is an opportunity to market what you do.
So, I embrace slow pedagogy, an approach that allows children to develop at their own pace through deep and meaningful engagement. The focus in my service is on real world skills, like problem solving, independence, resilience, rather than rushed academic tasks. So showcase, showcase the learning in action.
So share the stories and the wins that other families are having, uh, because we're all part of the community. And when we can see these things happening in real time, it's, it's really beneficial and you can do it in a way that's appropriate as well. You just need to be, you know, getting permission from people to share this.
Oh, you know, your little one learned how to blah, blah, blah. That's so fantastic. And make a [00:22:00] celebration of it. Oh, a little Jack, he's, After weeks of learning, he's mastered how to make his bed today. And that's something that everybody can celebrate in. Just because it's not their child doesn't mean that there doesn't need to be celebration.
We're all holding space for these children in care. And so when someone achieves a milestone, it's really lovely to acknowledge that and share it. Um, using Instagram, Facebook, Twitter. and newsletters to educate families on the importance of play based child learning. There might be podcasts that you want to share, there might be books that you've read, all these kinds of things.
Maybe you did some PD, you want to write a little thing about the PD that you did, the thing that you learnt. This is all going to share The professionalism with which you bring to this process and it's really important that we do it. Um, so addressing the misconceptions directly. So as soon as someone says anything that you go, whoa, whoa, hang on a second.
That's not how we do it here. And the [00:23:00] reason why I do it this way is because. And if they're asking you directly, like, why aren't there worksheets? Because real learning happens through hands on experiences and not passive memorization. Children don't learn like that, and we know this, and there's such a massive body of evidence behind us to support that.
And you might get the old, how is my child going to be ready for school? Because your child is going to know how to manage themselves emotionally. They're going to be able to be disappointed and not fall in a heap. They're going to know how to, Look after their own belongings and trust me, when you've had to buy five jumpers in one winter season because your child just drops stuff and leaves it all over the place.
I am seriously teaching your children how to put things away in their bag. The importance of putting things back where they belong. Being able to open their own lunchbox. I'm [00:24:00] open their drink bottle, fill their drink bottle, being able to ask for help when they need it, being able to negotiate and manage, uh, other children and, and their behaviors, but more so manage themselves, uh, all the things that your child needs to have in, well, in hand.
before they get to school, more so than knowing how to read and write, because that's what the teacher is going to teach them. When the children go to, go to school and they can manage their own emotions and all the things we just talked about, that's school ready. Um, so I would say that I really want to get across that if you are talking about slow pedagogy with your families, it's not about letting children run wild.
It's a structured and intentional and purposeful approach that prioritises deep learning over rushed outcomes. Like it really, you get into the core of what the learning is and you allow the children the [00:25:00] time to actually do that. So parents want what's best for their children and it's our job to help them see the long term benefits of slowing down.
We're in such a fast paced society now that this is so beneficial for families to understand the importance of prioritizing early bedtimes for your children and having these consistent rhythms that the children can support. Who works on a Monday and has that Monday cohort of children coming completely exhausted?
Every day, every Monday they come in, they are wiped out because they've had these wild weekends, not wild, but they've had these weekends where they've been on the go and there is no downtime. Their bedtimes have not been honored. All of these things are impact these little people and the bodily rhythms that they have in such a negative way and we pay the price every Monday and potentially Tuesday as well.
So we [00:26:00] really need to be having those conversations with families about early childhood is just such a small part in time and we need to prioritize that for the children because that sets them up for a lifetime of good healthy habits for themselves. So small everyday conversations that absolutely make a huge difference.
Um, using simple language, the analogies and real life experience to build the understanding and the more we show learning in action, the easier it is for parents to embrace slow pedagogy in in a in whole. So I hope that really gives you some practical strategies and things that you can use, uh, with your families and your, um, communication with your colleagues, because I think it's a really important part of the process of slow pedagogy.
And, uh, yeah, I'm, I'm really excited to, uh, showcase more practical strategies and examples [00:27:00] in the Big Hearted Education's Helicopter to Hands Off, which goes live on the 4th of March. So, uh, this week, I don't even know what day. The date is, uh, I'm just looking at my calendar. Today's date is the 25th. So we've still got, uh, it's a week, a week today that, um, that the helicopter to hands off goes live.
So if you're listening to these after it's already come out, sorry, you've missed out, but come hang out with me on socials because I'll do another one in another six months time. Um, but it won't be helicopter to hands off. It's another, another series that I have as well. So, but if you want to register and you want to learn how this can Actually be applied into your particular, um, setting, then this is the way that you can do so.
You can, um, go to w oh, I don't need to say www dot . Go to be card education.com/helicopter-two [00:28:00] dash, hands off one word. Um, so bighearted education.com/helicopter-two. TO dash hands off one word. Uh, you can register there, uh, or you can have a look on any of my last social media posts and you'll be able to comment the word helicopter and we will send you the information.
So thanks so much for joining me today. I hope you got a lot out of today's episode. Um, and if you have a topic you would like me to talk about, please let me know. And I will absolutely 100 percent cover that topic for you because I want to provide you things that are going to be useful and helpful to you.
So my friends, you go forth and have the most magical day. And I look forward to seeing you all very, very soon. Much love. Bye.
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